In this exclusive interview with Eventus Recruitment, Helen Milburn gives an insight into her career in Private Client and gives her top tips for those wanting to begin a career in Law. Also, she explains why she thinks there are less Trainee Solicitors wanting to specialise in Private Client. Helen is now Partner and Head of Private Client, Trusts, and Probate at Jacksons Law Firm.
Please can you give us an overview of your career history and progression?
I’m Head of Department of the Private Client Team and a Partner here at Jacksons. I have a nice story when it comes to my career history; I first came to Jacksons on work experience in February 2010 having already completed my legal studies. Whilst I was here, I must have made a good impression, and I was offered a training contract to start just two months after. After I completed my training contract I qualified into Private Client and progressed into more senior positions within the department over the years. I was offered partnership last year. It’s a career history that really shows Jacksons’ commitment to developing and supporting people. People want to be able to move forward in their careers and it’s good to be in a firm that really encourages that.
Why did you choose to specialise in Private Client law?
It’s always been something that I’ve been interested in, which I think is quite unusual as it’s not particularly the most well-known area of law. I initially did a degree in English and then a law conversion course during which I did my electives in Private Client, so I covered a lot about Wills and Trusts. Whilst I did then spend time in other areas of law on my training contract, they just didn’t appeal to me as much as Private Client did.
There are really two things I like the most about Private Client. Firstly, it requires in depth technical knowledge. It’s heavily focused on the details which appeals to my meticulous nature, and it’s deeply rooted historically, which I always find fascinating.
The second is it’s dealing with people. It’s a very people focused side of the law. You get to meet a lot of clients and you really feel you get to know them which gives great job satisfaction. As part of the role you meet with families, build rapport, and usually not for a one-off service – you’re often building long standing relationships as their Solicitor, which I really enjoy. Private client covers a wide range of different practise areas; wills, trusts, estate, planning and probate. It’s never the same thing on your desk day in and day out and I like that.
Was it difficult to settle over a specialism or did it speak to you straight away?
Private Client spoke to me straight away. I was lucky enough to do a long stint in it when I was training, and I knew it was what I wanted to do. The whole ethos of it just fitted in with me personally. I always say to trainee solicitors that you’ve got to keep your mind open when you’re looking at what areas of law to do. It’s important to pick something that you’re genuinely interested in; then you’re going to be passionate about it and be dedicated to it. That’s important in any job, isn’t it? But I think it’s important in law for a long and successful career.
We've been talking over the past couple of months about the shortage of Private Client lawyers on the market. Part of that reason, I feel anyway, is that less trainees are choosing to specialise or qualify into Private Client. Why do you think that is?
It’s difficult to identify a single reason. However, when I was thinking about this, I don’t know whether it’s because it isn’t as glamorous as other areas of the law or as much publicised. When you’re a law student or a trainee, when you think of being a Solicitor, you’re only really thinking of being in a court room, I think these non-contentious areas do go under the radar a little!
Why should someone specialise in Private Client?
It’s a really rewarding area to work in. You’re dealing with people who want your help and advice, you are their trusted advisor and it’s a very positive client experience.
In terms of your legal development, there’s a lot of technical law involved and a lot of complexities to really get your teeth into. You’ve got a lot of opportunities to deal with marketing and business development, working with other professionals in other sectors, who compliment and develop your own work.
Sometimes people think it’s just drafting Wills, but it’s so much more! There are plenty of opportunities to develop your own specialism within Private Client for example, estate planning, agricultural, business, high net worth as well as opportunities to show creativity – to be able to do things a bit differently – and make your own mark on the way things are done.
Are there any particular aspects of Private Client or your role that you enjoy the most?
In terms of the work, I would probably say estate administration. I’ve had a lot of complex estates over the years, where I’ve got to work with accountants and tax advisors in addition to the clients over a long period of time. It’s very interesting for me and always enhances my professional development; I like this collaborative approach.
What would you say is the most challenging part of your role?
I think the most challenging part is probably juggling everything! We’re quite a small department but we are wanting to grow. It’s coming up with new ideas and initiatives and balancing that with the day to day running of the department and looking after our clients. It’s good to be busy but you can come in with your to do list and then new things happen, and you’ve not ticked everything (or anything!) off that you wanted to that day!
What motivates you in your working life?
For me personally, it’s quite simple, I like to do a good job and to do well at what I’m doing. I like to build relationships with my clients; getting positive feedback from them is really fulfilling for me as part of my job. In addition, I’m really motivated by managing my team. I’ve been in the department since I qualified, coming up 12 years now and it’s been important for me to develop myself, and others and grow the department. It’s really rewarding and motivating to bring people on this journey along with me and supporting them to build their own careers.
So, you talked a little bit about your transition through your career at Jacksons from a junior to a senior position. How did you find that transition and how were you supported in it?
It’s been character building for me. I was given the opportunity to really step up to the plate in terms of working independently and be in a supervisory position quite early on in my career, I quite quickly became the most senior person in my team. Sometimes I do look back and wonder how I managed it! I think it’s full credit to the firm to allow that opportunity. Sometimes you have to be out of your comfort zone to see who you really are, I think that opportunity was formative and really kickstarted my career.
How do you think you've grown professionally since becoming a partner last year?
It was a big shift for me and very exciting, perhaps bigger than I had imagined because I’ve been a Head of Department for many years so considered myself to be in a leadership role. When I was offered partnership, it was a decision that I took seriously. It was not just a title to me, it’s a huge responsibility and commitment to the overall firm and its future.
It’s hard to describe but it’s a transition from working ‘in’ the business to working ‘on’ the business. However, it’s been important for my career development to take that step. It’s a real change of mindset from just being focused on what you and your team are doing to thinking about it in the context of the overall firm.
I get to sit round the table and understand the wider workings of the firm and have a voice on business and the direction of the firm. It’s really opened my mind and I’ve grown quite a lot in the last year by taking in this bigger picture.
What would you say has been your biggest achievement in your career so far?
The achievement I’m most proud of is the professional development of the fantastic trainees, paralegals, and solicitors that I’ve had the pleasure of working with over the years; to have even been just a small part of shaping their careers is my greatest achievement and such a huge part of my career satisfaction. It’s so rewarding to encourage more fee-earners in an area of law that I love – and in a sector where they are really in demand.
What's been your single biggest challenge in your career-to-date and how did you overcome it?
Without doubt, it was taking on responsibility for the department early on in my career. I managed to navigate that successfully with the support of the firm – and some exceptional secretaries and fee-earners who were always rooting for me! Looking back, it was a sink or swim moment for me in my career. I think a lot of us do suffer from imposter syndrome (and I probably still do to some extent!) however, it’s an important lesson for other junior lawyers, to know you can do a lot more than you think you can do if you take that leap of faith!
What's your aspiration for your career as a whole?
I was made a Partner last year so that was a huge career milestone for me. However, I want to continue to grow the Private Client team at Jacksons and put us on the map as one of the best in the North-East.
How do you manage to juggle personal commitments with being a successful legal professional?
That is a huge question for everyone, I think it is hard to switch off from work. Some of my most inspired thoughts come to me in the middle of the night! It’s important to allow yourself time to switch off though and with my team I like to lead by example; I don’t encourage people to feel like they must be seen to work on the evenings and weekends.
I encourage my team to have a good work-life balance, to know that they can leave work and take a break. Although, sometimes additional work outside of standard hours is unavoidable as part and parcel of your career, it’s important that people do have their free time to recharge their batteries. At Jacksons we have a flexible working policy to help with our work-life balance. Also, we have recently introduced term time contracts to help solicitors better juggle with family life.
Personally, I find that on the days that I’m working in the office, my long drive home helps me to get things turned over in my head and switch off into off work mode for the evening. When I’m working from home, I think it’s important to have an end of the day, so I’ll usually get outside, go for a walk, to clear my head.
Why should somebody take up a career in law?
Working in law is a really rewarding career, both personally and professionally. It can be a lifelong career choice, with so many opportunities to continually grow within it, ultimately all within your own aspirations.
What advice do you have for someone wanting to begin a career in law?
Explore all the opportunities out there because the traditional routes into the profession are changing. You can now do the Solicitor Apprenticeship route which means you are in the working law firm office environment from day one. Being straight into the ‘real world’ has so many learning advantages.
There are a lot of non-traditional routes into law, and you don’t necessarily have to have started out thinking you want to be a lawyer. I didn’t know I did when I went to university! We have a paralegal in our team who started out on a Business Apprenticeship working on our reception and is now doing her CILEX course which is an inspiring example.
I think it’s important to do work experience, to get a taste of things and demonstrate commitment to your career choice. Do any voluntary experience you can get, law firms, legal charities, etc. I spent time at the Citizens Advice Bureau. I think you must keep an open mind about your future career. Always be authentic to yourself but take on board any advice what other experienced people in the profession can give to you, as they have once walked in your shoes.
Working for Jacksons Law Firm
What advice would you give to graduates applying to Jacksons? What would stand out to you from a candidate looking for an entry level role?
Do your homework so you are knowledgeable about the role and the firm. Being able to show how passionate you are about working for Jacksons and be able to demonstrate your interest in your career with us is key.
What do you like the most about working for Jacksons?
It’s hard to answer this one without sounding cliché, but for me the culture and the ethos of the firm. If you’ve got a problem with anything, you can share that problem and know that others around you including those in the senior management team are going to support you. That sort of trust is hugely important, and I know you don’t get that everywhere.
You’re also trusted to do your job; I don’t believe anyone thrives in a situation where you’re micro-managed or you feel someone is constantly looking over your shoulder. However, there’s support there when people need it, it’s an open-door policy throughout, it is such a collaborative and conducive environment to work in.
How has your department grown?
When I think back there were times when it was just me and a trainee Solicitor in the department and then there’s been various combinations over the years where we have had real growth. We have a Private Client Solicitor in our Newcastle office also, which is great to have presence across the whole of the North-East. Now we are looking to expand the Private Client department in both offices.
So, your team at Jackson's is recruiting at present. What are you looking for?
We’re looking to have another fee-earner in our team, Solicitor or equivalent. We’re in a situation now where we’re looking to further grow and develop the department. We have a few exciting development initiatives getting underway and we’re really looking to have another Solicitor on board to support that. Ultimately, we’re quite flexible in terms of what we’re looking for, in terms of experience and qualification. The most important element for us is to get the right fit for the team. Somebody who’s possibly got at least a few of years of Private Client experience under their belt or equally someone who is well established and keen to develop specialisms, for example, for agricultural or business and high net worth clients. We do have quite a large agricultural and business client base and we would also like to expand our business development activities in this area.
Would you be comfortable with them based in either office?
Yes, they could be based in either our Stockton or Newcastle office. We are quite flexible and have a flexible working policy, which enables people to work across both offices and from home.
What do you look for in an applicant?
We are looking for someone who would be the right fit for our team. An applicant who is passionate about working in Private Client and can work well in the team but also has the confidence to work independently. We naturally want someone with strong technical skills and experience in Private Client, who is really focussed on the details but also has great soft skills for working with our clients and who has enthusiasm for business development and marketing.
Why, if I was a Private Client Lawyer, working locally or in another North East firm, should I want to join your team specifically?
You’ll be working with a team of people who are really dedicated and enthusiastic about what they do. We’ve got a lot of experience between us and we’re a forward-thinking and open-minded team. We are looking for people to bring their thoughts and ideas and they will all be taken onboard. It will be an opportunity to do a full and varied caseload in Private Client work.
Our Private Client team is currently a team of 7. There’s me, there’s two solicitors, a trainee solicitor, a paralegal and two secretaries. Also, you’ll be encouraged to develop your career with Jacksons in the same way as I and the rest of the team have. We actively encourage career development, for example, you may want to start or continue your STEP qualification. We would look to support you in that.
The office environment is also fantastic. It’s modern with break out spaces for collaborative working. There’s free parking at our Stockton Office and a real sense of community within the office. Plus, all the flexibility, which is a massive selling point at Jacksons!
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